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Magnesium Malate and Fibromyalgia

2008 October 24

In a continuing effort to live well with Fibromyalgia I am going to be researching and trying new and different things to help maintain my health.  I will report on my research and my own personal experiences, but I am not a doctor and therefore will not be telling anyone to try what I do.  If you think you may benefit from my experiences, please check with your doctor to see if it is right for you.

 

I have read repeatedly that Magnesium Malate may significantly reduce pain in people with Fibromyalgia by increasing muscle efficiency.  But for me to try something new, it is not enough to read that it helps.  I need to understand why it helps, so I did more research on the topic (what did we do before the internet?) and here is some of what I learned.

 

The following quote is from Fibromyalgia: A Journey Toward Healing by Chanchal Cabrera.  She is a medical herbalist and clinical aromatherapist who has taken a holistic approach to understanding and treating Fibromyalgia.

 

Malic acid plays an essential role in the metabolism of glucose and the production of energy through the Krebs cycle.  It tends to spare oxygen and provide greater stamina and endurance in muscle cells.  It is found in abundance in apples and may contribute to the traditional use of apple cider vinegar as a treatment for rheumatism.  Research from the Texas Health Science Center in San Antonio demonstrated significant benefit from the use of magnesium malate in FMS.  Malic acid also helps to remove aluminum, which may contribute to significant cellular disruption, from the tissues.  Doses up to 1,500 mg/day are normal.  It is often taken in the form of magnesium malate and this is particularly helpful in FMS.

 

This seems logical to me.  If there is truth to the theory of researchers who believe that there is a malfunction in the body’s ability to manufacture energy for people with FM, then it makes sense to take a supplement like Magnesium Malate which can help increase muscle endurance.

 

The fatigue I feel sometimes is simply irrational.  I wake up tired.  I have a nice relaxing day and I am tired.  Could it be that my muscles are not getting the oxygen they need to produce energy?  Could it be that my muscles burn energy faster than they can produce it?  Could it be that I am magnesium and/or malic acid deficient?  These are all theories from researchers, and if magnesium and malic acid have been proven to be important substances in the manufacture of energy – well then sign me up. 

 

I don’t know if it will work for me.  The brand I bought is 1000 mg per pill and it suggests taking between 1-3 each day.  I think I will start slow and just take one a day.  One of the reasons I am looking to more holistic methods of treating my FM is that I do not tolerate medication well.  But my body needs these supplements so in a way it is like taking my multi-vitamin.  At least that is how I am going to approach it.

 

I will be sure to update what if any changes I feel taking it.  And I would be really interested in hearing from anyone else who has taken it and what your results were. Post something in the comments so we can get a dialog going.

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  1. October 26, 2008

    Hey there :) I just came to the conclusion today that I am pretty sure that I have fibromyalgia. I’ve been dealing with this pain and other symptoms for a long time, but I never read up on FM, and I haven’t had good insurance for awhile, so tests were out of the picture.

    Any how, my Mom mentioned to me the other day on the phone, “I think you might have fibromyalgia, Nicole.”

    “No I don’t, Mom…!”

    But today, I heard her nagging voice in my head, so I started reading, and man. Everything I’ve read is ME.

    I used to think it was Adrenal Fatigue Syndrome, then possibly arthritis, but this, this covers all the problems that have been plaguing me. And it feels right.

    Any how, I was just cruising around, looking for blogs, and wanted to say hey. I’m going to add you to my Google Reader ;)

    Nicole

  2. fibrohaven permalink
    October 27, 2008

    Hi Nicole,

    I am glad you can by and left a comment. I know how overwhelming it can be do the research you are, but I have to say you are doing the very best thing.

    If and when you do go to your doctor, it is best to have as much information about how you are feeling and about the research you have done. Fibromyalgia is still misunderstood by many medical professionals and you know best what you are feeling, so I am glad to see you are taking an active part in dealing with it.

    It is something that I am still trying to do better every day – listen to what my body is saying and make adjustments. I LOVE coffee, but I have learned that it can lead to toxicity and flare-ups so I have begrudgingly cut down to one or two a week, less if I am in a flare-up. As you “listen” more carefully to what your body is telling you, you also will learn what to do and not do to help manage your pain.

    If there is one simple piece of advise I can start you with, it is to drink more water. I know it sounds cliché, but it really makes a difference. I have written a little about it in “4 Simple Daily Habits to Help Manage Your Fibromyalgia” but I plan to dedicate an article just to the benefits of water.

    Please drop by often, and feel free to ask me any questions you have. That is one of the reasons I began this blog. I am really interested in helping myself and others manage Fibromyalgia.

    Best Wishes,
    Dannette

  3. Kathy permalink
    December 15, 2008

    Just a quick note. I have used magnesium (under the watchful eye of a Naturopath) and was really quite surprised that it relieved a lot of the muscle pain…you know the pain that feels like someone socked you in the arm really hard? Anyhow, two bits of advice (probably worth that much): liquid magnesium works best and go very, very slowly in increasing the amount you take. Increase your dosage too quickly and you’ll be spending your day in the bathroom. Not like I would know from personal experience :)

    Best of luck to you!

  4. January 23, 2009

    Dannette,

    Like you, I am not able to take the mainstream pharmaceuticals that are abundantly available. One that did work for me proved to be too expensive so I researched the drug, its mechanism of action and the compounds in the natural world that would have similar efficacy. After careful study I determined that magnesium would make a good substitute for my prescription drug because they both work to calm the excitatory nerves that transmit pain. I have been using magnesium ever since and have found that the chelated varieties work the best, and magnesium malate fits that requirement. I was not familiar with the malic acid-energy component, but come across the lore in my readings. I had planned to delve into it more deeply, but now you have answered my questions without further need to check the literary resources. Thank you!

    Glad I could help Karla. This topic gets a lot of traffic on my blog, and I have been doing more research on it to write a more educational article. There is a lot of information out there to weed through and I am hoping to break it all down to present a more complete picture, not just my opinion. FH

  5. michele morrison permalink
    March 25, 2009

    Hi
    at my wits end cant find any painkillers that work without even worse side effects for m.e/fb pain in head neck & shoulders want to now try magnesium but dont know which dose or kind is best do you have any ideas

  6. MiMi permalink
    July 18, 2009

    Hello……I have been taking magnesium malate combination for some time now….and it along with other vitamins and supplements have allowed me to learn to “control” my pain….I have had a slight problem with my left lower back hurting….and I hope it is not the kidneys….but my FM pain is so much better…..I tried several different kinds of medicine but always seemed to have more side effects with them than I cared to deal with…If I could only find something now for the chronic fatigue…..

    Just wanted to let you know…..

    MiMi

  7. Stephanie Santoro permalink
    August 8, 2009

    I am a 21 year old girl that has been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia last year. I have been dealing with this, unbeknownst to me, since I was in Middle School, and bad 5th grade skiing accident led to whiplash, growing up with all these pains and fatigue for so long has been bad, especially when no one belives you. I have tried Cymbalta for about a month recently and it made me feel worse. Now I am on Savella, I have been for about a month and a half, and I dont feel any difference, what makes it worse is that I am very sensative to medicine. Ive read about how Magnesium seems to help with the things that bother me the most, would that be worth stopping the Savella and taking Magnesium?

    Thanks for your time.

    • July 11, 2011

      Stephanie,
      The magnesium will definitely help support your nervous system. In our culture our nervous systems are daily attacked by EMFs (electromagnetic fields- cell phones, WiFi, computers, anything electric) which prevents our bodies from healing properly. Magnesium supports your nervous system to better fend off the constant attack.
      As for your whiplash, I don’t know that the magnesium will restore you to your pre-whiplash state. I’m not a doctor. However, I myself had severe whiplash in an auto accident that left my neck stiff, straight and with limited mobility. Recently, I met Mark Earlix who has restored the mobility to my neck with one session with him. I don’t know where you live but I know that he can do appointments on the phone sometimes. Here is his website: http://www.healermarkearlix.net . My website talks about the dangerous effects of EMF it is http://www.feelgreatlookbetter.com/EMR_Protectors.html

    • Juli permalink
      January 31, 2014

      I too had my Fibro start at age 21. I am now 55 yo. I wish I had tried everything natural instead of the quick fixes. Maybe i’d feel better now. When i was 21 I shouldve tried excerise, meditation, eating healthy etc. I did not. Now i’m paying for it. Im still working but FM rules my life 24-7. good luck to you and i hope you do better than i did.

  8. Mark Robinson permalink
    August 17, 2009

    I am a 55 year old male who has suffered from fibromyalgia/chostrochondritis for years. The worst part is the
    extreme fatigue and tiredness that has occurred. I was reading about
    magnesium on the internet and decided to give it a try. Have been
    taking it for a week now and I truly believe it is helping the muscle
    aches/fatigue. This is a godsend to me.

  9. Anna Murphy permalink
    August 17, 2009

    I have read nothing but good on the internet about taking malic acid with magnesium. I tried it myself until I ran out of the malic acid LOL. Now I will get the mag malate. Dr. Oz describes a combo vitamin with calcium citrate, magnesium malate, vitamin D that sounds like something I want to try, and he wasn’t hyping a particular brand. I have been taking only 400mg of mag oxide, so I think I’m not taking enough.

    I need to do more research about the use of oral mag (pills) and soak combos. I have RLS so bad that I have given in and decided to try the soaks at bedtime. I don’t know if I should be concerned if the combo will have consequences.

    • Laura permalink
      August 16, 2013

      Magnesium oxide is the least absorbable type of magnesium to take.

  10. August 29, 2009

    Funny story…got a coupon for free shipping from a place called SaltWorks( http://www.saltworks.us/ ) so I bought a 25 lb. bag of epsom salts and another 25 lb. bag of Bokek, which is Dead Sea Salt.

    I’ve taken a lot of epsom salt baths before…but always in the evening. However right now I’m trying to wean myself off the drugs and yesterday morning I was miserable. I hadn’t slept much the night before because of the titering down of the drugs and I was tired and sore and couldn’t just pop a pill to fix the problem.

    So I decided to take a bath based on the instructions that came in the box…eh, with an extra cup full of the sea salt. What could it hurt?

    I took the bath at 8am, soaked for 20 minutes and felt much better. But by 9am I couldn’t keep my eyes open and I was out cold until the early afternoon.

    So no more epsom salt baths in the morning, and stick to the recommended amounts, I think!

  11. fibro/lupus queen permalink
    September 10, 2009

    I have had almost a week of no pain, and I am trying to figure out if it is the magnesium malate I started taking. I have been taking some different enzymes before and with the mag malate, and I am so shocked with the pain level change. I have been taking some very strong pain meds and have been in pain non stop for almost four years. I stopped taking the pain meds and I think went into a bit of withdrawal last night, I didnt cut down, just stopped because I didnt have hardly any pain. I need to be more careful.
    As for the mag malate, I really think that is what is causing the abrupt change inthe pain, Iam also dealing with a huge increase in my energy level, so much so that I feel a bit anxious and not able to sleep well. (Not a new thing, the lack of sleep, but not from this much energy.) I have been searching the internet tonight to find out more about this suplement, as it was suggested by a friend and I didnt really research it before taking it. (I didnt really expect it to do anything, especially since nothing has helped me much before.) I am very sensitive to meds as well, so perhaps I am experiencing a raised level of reaction to this too.
    Well what ever it is, I am so greatful to be having so little pain right now, wondering how long this could possibly last, and feeling like going for a walk. So wierd to feel that way at the end of the day.

    • Juli permalink
      January 31, 2014

      I bought mag/malc acid supps about one month ago after reading the clinical trials on it.
      At first I took 6 pills per day instead of 3 because most of the reviews stated it didnt work until they took that amount. It didnt bother my stomach at all. Yes it did clean me out but not so bad that i’d need to stay in the rest room all day. Recently however i’ve noticed a huge surge in my fm pain. Like a flare thats gone wrong for no reasons. I’m worried its due to the amount of Mag/malic acid. Has anyone else had this problem? I cant find anything about it online.
      thank you

  12. Sharon ONeill permalink
    September 14, 2009

    I have just weaned myself off Cymbalta because I have gained mega lbs. (I have never had a weight problem in the past?)What is the combination supplement that Dr. Oz recommends? How much of each? The sooner I start this the quicker my pain level will decrease. Thanks! Sharon

  13. September 29, 2009

    Thank you Annette for your kind comment. I appreciate your acknowledgment of what I am trying to accomplish here.

    As for our age, the average age of the members of my local support group is 40-50, but we even have a couple of teen members. As our environment continues to become more and more toxic, I am certain the cases of FM in younger patients will continue to rise. Physical traumas are a major cause of FM, but so are emotional traumas, and environmental toxins – our food, medicines, air quality, etc..

    Please, feel free to mention the brand name of the product you are recommending. I am curious to know it as I am sure others will be.

    What you wrote about people with FM feeling and sensing things others cannot is a deep belief of mine. I think it is one of the things that predisposes many of us to the condition. I may just have to borrow your phrasing of it: “an alignment of our energy vibrating so fast that our poor bodies can’t keep up with the movement…” Beautifully said! Thank you for the prayers Annette.

  14. September 29, 2009

    I use Tropical Oasis Liquid Calcium Magnesium Dietary Supplement (Great Tasting Orange Flavor One Tablespoon Daily) Purchased at GNC Keep it cold in refrigerator. Sometimes I take 2 Tablespoons if I’m in a flare. Also purchased liquid Glucosamine, Chondroitin,MSM (Mixed Berry Flavor) Brand name Wellesse. From GNC, also keep cold in frig. Very easy to swallow and I do not feel nauseous afterward. Not too expensive. Both have vit D, but I also take a mini capsule of vit D 5000 IU 2x week ( My blood work revealed that I was very deficient last year). GNC also carries a liquid Vit B complex in dropper, tastes good too. I don’t like the big “horse” pills, so liquid is the answer for me. Hope this helps some of you. Together with you, Annette

  15. tammie permalink
    December 6, 2009

    hello to all , I want to say what a nice site this is. Very informative and personal. I have been suffering from the same symptons as the people Ive been reading about. For 3 yearsI have lived in constant pain. I have tried PT, yoga, stretching, chiro and accupuncture with very little relief. I thought that my aches were from a sking accident 4 years ago. Recently I have begun to have panic attacks at night, that would wake me up from a dead sleep. I was rx’d xanax and I was happy, as did not have any pain. Then I was afraid I would be addicted to them but, more afraid of the pain and panic attack. I roamed the web and found that zinc helps with muscle tension. I woke up this morning thanking the universe and the Creator that I slept thru the night without pain and a xanax. I am still in awe over it. I feel for anyone who suffers from constant pain. Never give up!There is hope. ~*~ peace and love

  16. Swami permalink
    January 18, 2010

    all of you are going to notice that your symptoms came on after an event whether physical or emotional.

    Think retro virus. These lay dormant in the system and are triggered to erupt to the surface and begin their march in whatever way your personal DNA and structural weaknesses dictate. Some of this is and mostly heriditary, but a component always overlooked by mainstream medicine is vaccines. All of this started in the 50’s.

    For some vibropathic medicine is helpful. For others it will be an emotional breakthrough, still others it might just be a simple ingredient such as magnesium malate. That is why it seems to be phantom like. You are all snow flakes unique and no one, holistic nor allopathic can give you one definitive formula for wellness. Some things will be givens, but the degree of recovery will vary even with foundational nutrition.

    Ask your body. Listen. Then let your higher self tell you. It will be a very quiet response. It might be forgive, it might be pursue, it might be something very butterfly like.

    This is your divine dance, not a malady, but a chord struck that requires a harmonic response. A like chord.

    What is your greatest tragedy will be your grandest triumph.
    This is forcing you to re-examine what you call life.

    • Liesel permalink
      July 5, 2013

      “This is your divine dance, not a malady, but a chord struck that requires a harmonic response. A like chord.
      What is your greatest tragedy will be your grandest triumph.
      This is forcing you to re-examine what you call life.”

      I’ve had fibro all my life, and this last relapse was the worst. With all of that time spent bedridden, I’m happy to say that I arrived at the place you describe above. Not saying I’ve got it all figured out, of course. :)

      Thanks for putting it so beautifully.

    • Juli permalink
      January 31, 2014

      excellent post i agree!

  17. ronda permalink
    January 23, 2010

    Hi
    I am beginning to think I have FM after doing some research. I went to my MD, but she didn’t seem the least bit concerned. I sort of felt like she thought I was a hypochondriac. (sp?) I have had 3 or 4 so called “flare-ups”. It feels like I am getting the flu. Extreme pain and spasms in my legs and then it moves throughout my hips, arms and back. I can hardly walk up the stairs in my house. It also seems like I’m in a fog. A bit disoriented at times… just not quite alert. I have trouble sleeping all the time and when I do go to sleep, I have trouble staying asleep. I have had IBS for years. I have also had RLS for a long time. Does any of this sound like FM to any of you? Do you have these symptoms? What kind of MD should I look for to help me? Thank you in advance.

    • Sherri permalink
      April 19, 2011

      You need to see a Rheumatologist, regular MD’s are not experienced in this field. However,I feel that your MD should have recommended you go to the Rheumatologist. It wasn’t until I seen one that I was diagnosed correctly.I am new to this journey as I was only diagnosed 3 weeks ago. I also am very sensitive to medicines so have started taking Magnesium Malate. I have been on this for several days and am hoping that it works as well as I have heard.I wish you luck in your journey and just do alot of research it will be your best friend :)

  18. veronica permalink
    February 3, 2010

    Magnesium malate held me alot, my Rheumatologist suggest I take it and it really help. I also use T.E.N unit device to stop the pain.

    • fibrohaven permalink
      February 8, 2010

      I have a TENS unit but have not used it for some time. It was the only part of physical therapy that ever helped me. Maybe it is time to break it out! Glad the magnesium malate is working for you Veronica.

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  19. Katherine permalink
    March 1, 2010

    Hello to all fibro warriors!
    I too have been suffering from pain and chronic fatigue and was diagnosed FINALLY with Fibromyalgia. Although there is no cure, at least I had a name to why I felt like I have.

    After years of dealing with doctors and specialist, I finally found a wonderful Rheumatologist that wasn’t so quick with her prescription pad. I had been on so many prescription drugs all of which didn’t help, but you’re told it’d be worse if you didn’t take them. Anyways to try to make a LONG story short… she put me on suppliments and took me off all prescription drugs dealing with my fibro issues.

    I’ve been on them now for 2 months and I’ve actually cried about the relief I have received. I was very doubtful ‘suppliments’ would help, but for me, they have saved my life! Literally.

    Please don’t start these if you are on other prescriptions unless you are discussing it with your own physician. This is the list of suppliments she has put me on:

    1st. month:
    Calcium (500mg tab)1 tab 3 x’s daily with meals

    Vitamin D ( 400IU) 1 tab 2 x daily with meals

    Magnesium Malate (1000mg tab) 1 tab 3 x’s daily with meals. * special note*( you might want to start off with half tab- 500mg tab 3 x’s daily at first and increase to 1000 mg tab as you can tolerate) also make sure its not just magnesium .. be sure its magnesium MALATE (I bought at a vitamin shop- couldn’t find the right one at department stores)

    Manganese (50mg) 1 tab at dinner

    after a month add these
    Thiamin B1 (100mg) 1 tab at dinner
    Co Enzyme Q10 (60mg) 1 tab 3x’s daily with meals

    This has been life changing for me, I pray it will be the same for you.

    • fibrohaven permalink
      March 1, 2010

      Katherine you are awesome! I know so many people will appreciate you sharing the supplement regiment you are on. It is wonderful to read about the great results you are experiencing. I hope your quality of life continues to improve.

      I know I am feeling much better just with the magnesium. I think it is time I try Vitamin D too. I hear too many good reports to put it off any longer.

      My only note is to those of you reading this. If you are interested in starting a similar supplement regiment, my advice is to always consult your healthcare provider. Not all of our doctors are so progressive and quick to put down their prescription pads as Katherine’s, but as she noted, there are side affects to anything we put into our bodies – natural or synthetic.

      Thanks Katherine!

  20. FibroTeacher permalink
    March 29, 2010

    I have FM and CFS. For months I dealt with the pain like so many. Then I started to read and research. I changed my diet first. No fried, fast food, refined sugar, high fructose corn syrup, MSG, etc. And most importantly, lots of water and foods high in Mg. I also began to take a product called Natural Calm to help regulate my calcium intake and restore Mg levels. Along with a GOOD multivitamin(spend a little extra money on one without fillers that is ALL NATURAL), I have seen improvements with my joint pain and fatigue. I still have my bad days, but my good ones have much more energy that before these changes. Good luck to all :-)

    • Juli permalink
      January 31, 2014

      I changed my diet drastically about two years ago when my cholesterol level was 799. Yes 799. I thought the lab made a mistake so i had myself tested 3 times. I decided to change my diet instead of taking pills. I followed the atkins diet somewhat. I did go down 30 pounds from about 177 to 145 on a medium frame at 55 yo. It took a long time but I think i lost mostly muscle weight not fat. I did lower my chol. and that was my goal. I’m still pre diabetic tho.
      it should be 150 and i’m at a little over 200 still.
      then, the end of 2013 my sis took me on a cruise and i gained weight pretty fast. I’m up to about 160.
      one thing i didnt notice was any huge change in my pain levels before during or now. It was great to go from a size 12-14 to a six. but now i’m at a ten. I’m more concerned about my inner health than my pants size tho.
      My FM seems to be effected mostly by salt intake, processed foods, lack of protein, lack of green leafy veggies, lack of fish, lack of eating breakfast, lack of water.
      Its so easy to eat quick like deli foods, prepared meals, taco bell, even frozen diet food….but the body craves proper food like fuel to work at its best. It tells me this every day.
      I still dont eat pizza, or pop, I do eat sweets if theyre put in front of me, I’m not eating enough low fat high protein meat, I do eat fresh spinach but not enough.
      hope some of this helps others.

  21. Jake permalink
    April 29, 2010

    Great Stuff! I just bought source naturals magnesium maleate today and cant wait to start! Im 28 and feel so sore and achie that i can barely push my little girl on the swing! Every docotor is in denial of FMS they all want to believe its arthritis….

    • fibrohaven permalink
      April 29, 2010

      I hope the magnesium brings you relief Jake. I know if works for me. Most importantly it has improved my sleep tremendously. I can’t imagine how frustrating it must be as a parent to suffer so much physical pain it interferes with quality time with your daughter. My best to you both!

  22. MILES permalink
    July 13, 2010

    Hi All,

    Interesting comments…

    Two months ago I experienced aches and pains in my calves….along with increasing cramps twitches etc. I have had chronic back problems for most of my life..but the leg pains are new. I am not sure I have FM or CFS yet..that is under investigation..however the physio I am seeing has seen my symptoms in a few other people he had been treating previoiusly….
    I read that magnesium helps with muscle twitching…so I took some that I had alreadly had in the cupboard given to me by a Kineseologist two years ago..this was Magnesium Malate..with in 2 days I was feeling much better…at this time I did not know about the Malic Acid side of things…The Malate ran out within a week (all I had left) so I bought some Magnesium Citrate…this did not work…and the pains returned.
    I then did some research about CFS and Mag Malate was mentioned..it was just a coincidence i was taking the “right” vitamin!…
    I then found out some information about the Kreb’s Cycle and that your body needs Malic Acid for this process ….the research also mentioned that if you have increased yeast in your body this interrupts the Kreb’s Cyle process with tartaric acid.
    Here is the link:
    http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/fibromyalgia.asp

    This is suggesting Tartaric Acid is produced by yeast which is caused by a high carb diet such as bread pasta rice etc. (also elevated if you are diabetic or glucose intolerant)…to test if you have too much yeast in your body, spit into a glass of water first thing in the morning…if your saliva does not disolve and goes either cloudy or looks like a jelly fish then you have too much yeast in your diet (caused by high carb foods)…cutting high carbs seems help FibroTeacher..infact the western high carb diet is responsible for all chronic illnesses (see the very good Barry Groves website http://www.second-opinions.co.uk)

    The “yeast” connection is very interesting as FM often occurs in women. Women have more yeast infections than men.

    My spit incidently looked like a Man-o-war!

    The yeast connection maybe a long shot…..like with most diseases in the Western world…most are caused by eating too much carbohydrate….

    Wild animals do not have chronic illnesses…..Western pets do!..western pets are fed pet food which contains high carbohydrate.

    Good luck everyone!

    • July 14, 2010

      This is a great and informative comment Miles. I really appreciate all the research you have done and you sharing it here. I am still taking daily magnesium and it continues to help me. Also I cut out gluten, which naturally cut down on my card intake. I believe, like you, that our western diet is responsible for contributing to chronic illness. I will look at the resources you provided. Good luck to you too!

  23. July 5, 2011

    I am going to try the magnesium malate. ihave tried so many things,but no help. i am so tired and am so sore most of the time. i work every day and find it hard to even get dressed on somedays. Does anyone know if this interacts with blood thinners?

    • July 5, 2011

      Hi Sherry, I have no idea if it reacts with blood thinners, but you should definitely check with your doctor or pharmacist. If you are able to take it I hope it works well for you. I have switched to just regular magnesium and it is still working well for me.

  24. January 10, 2012

    I suffered persistent muscle pain after a course of statins. After I told my doctor he tested my vitamin D levels and found they were insufficient. This brought some relief, but adding in magnesium oxide eliminated the pain and cramps. I’m simply making the point that magnesium on its own or Vitamin D on its own may not result in a cure.

    • January 10, 2012

      Thank you for your comment Chazza. I just want to be sure everyone understands that the posts I write are informational and largely based on my individual experience. We are all different, and respond differently to treatments and protocols. I do not claim any of the information I supply is a “cure.” Just me sharing my journey and what has worked for me. Thanks for sharing what is working for you. Information is power.

  25. alyssa permalink
    March 3, 2012

    I just started magnesium malate, desperate to get some relief/sleep. I’m also going to try guaifenesin…

  26. Mitzi permalink
    April 2, 2012

    Hey all!

    I was just recently diagnosed with FM along with other symptoms so i take a pethera of scripts, but my wonderful mother loves going the holistic way and made me explore that world. So I did some research after I was diagnosed with FM and i bought Magnesium Malate, Omega-3 and Milk Thistle. And i must say, my engery has gone up slightly and my pain has gone down slightly. I’m thinking about upping the dosage but I’m gonna talk to my Dr. first.

    Milk Thistle helps cleanse your liver and kidneys if you are taking a lot of meds like myself.

    Hope this helps some. Try it out, you might be surpirised that it MIGHT work for you too :)

  27. Mary permalink
    June 12, 2012

    I have been taking the magnesium malate for at least 4 days I was wondering if anyone knows how long you have to take it before you see any difference with the fibro. I take 1.250 mg 2x’s a day. Thanks for your reply,Mary

  28. January 16, 2013

    I too have fibromyalgia and post polio syndrom. I too will try magnesium maleate. I had been taking magnesium. D Ribose is good to help with energy and pain. I got book “From Fatigue To Fantastic” by Dr that has treated patients for 30 years. I take most of the suppliments he has suggested. I don’t tolerate RX well either. I have used coalotal silver nasal spray for sinus infection instead of taking those antibiotics that hurt my GI system! I saw a DO that offered alternative treatments but of course it was CASH. I found B Total sublingual to help a lot. I even gave myself shots until I got my B12 too high. I read and Google often about my health. My biggest problem is cervical stenosis and nerves being pinched. I refused IV in neck for pain management. That too has side effects. Acupuncture has helped but Medicare does not pay for it either. The local PA that I am seeing now is understanding about me preferring suppliments. Some doctors think you must use RX! God bless all of you who are suffering with this !

  29. January 16, 2013

    Book I have says take magnesium by itself- not with other vitamins and supplements. I never heard that! Also said take at bedtime to help you sleep. I bought the magnesium spray off of TV. I spray it directly on muscles when I have leg cramps at night.

  30. Ellen Nicholas permalink
    February 8, 2013

    This site is a Godsend. I just heard about magnesium helping to relax and to help with my Fibro. pain. ..and wanted to take the right kind. Now I’m going to look for Malate form. My doctor knows nothing about Fibro. but my new acupuncturist does, I found out yesterday! I am now feeling much more hopeful that I can find ways to deal with my pain, burning muscles, bladder spasms, and nervousness. Oh yeah, Fibro. fog and Fatigue. I’ll keep you posted. I’m already taking D3. 3,000 mg. a day. Wish me luck! and thank you all so much! I had no idea a site like this existed. Oh, happy day!

  31. Liz Whitham permalink
    March 16, 2013

    I have been using magnesium oil spray for one week morning and night, massaged into my hands and feet, and have noticed a great reduction in pain.Also I am taking half the amount of painkillers I usually take, and feel less tired. By massaging it onto the skin it goes directly to the cells.
    Obtainable from
    http://www.betteryou.uk.com
    Give it a try!

  32. Carla permalink
    June 28, 2013

    I’m terribly excited to find this site! I know this is an old thread but i FINALLY feel connected! I’m 37 and was diagnosed two years ago but have had FM since i was about 14. I don’t have insurance and am desperate for help. Is getting worse with age. I’ve always had a “higher” connection to people and have healed people with touch and energy. I’m now in the medical field because it seems to be the best outlet to share my empathy. I am so grateful to each of you for fighting everyday and for being here for each other.

  33. Sylvia permalink
    October 5, 2013

    I have had the best results with acupuncture for stress relief and pain control. I have also benefitted a great deal from taking Now Foods Magnesium malate 1000 mg. 3 x’s a day. I pair it up with Now Foods GABA 500 mg. 3x’s per day. The chronic pain I had in my neck and back improved right away. I just started started Neurontin and it is helping too. My doctor paired it with Celexa. I hope I continue to improve.

  34. Linda Fisher permalink
    January 10, 2014

    Hi,
    I am a former Registered Nurse. I have been disabled with Fibromyalgia & some other issues. I discovered magnesium malate quite by accident. I had been taking Nature’s Sunshine products for some other things and saw something called Fibralgia. I called my herbalist and asked about the product. She told me it would be good for me to take. She muscle tested me for how many pills a day. The Fibralgia contains magnesium malate 80 mg & Malic Acid (magnesium malate) 350 mg. Once I started taking it I noticed my nagging low back pain started to go away after one week. I was so happy as the prescription drugs were OK, but never really “touched” this pain.
    Then I decided I could get it cheaper over the counter, so I bought some and took a double dose. I couldn’t wait to get back on the Fibralgia, as my back pain returned with a vengeance. Once I did the pain went away. The Nature’s Sunshine products are very pure, I should have known better.
    The Fibralgia also has helped my overall body pain from the fibromyalgia. Not as much as the back pain, but some.
    I see an acupuncturist who was trained in China, not someone with an 18 month course. He is wonderful! He was an orthopedic surgeon in China and has helped me a lot.
    Sorry for the long winded note, but I thought I’d share my experience as well because all of us keep looking for relief, and no one seems to understand.

  35. Brian permalink
    January 24, 2014

    Danette,

    I have not seen the rest of your site, so you may already have these things covered but I though it might be worth pointing a few things out.

    I have been researching the biochemistry of M.E. & Fibromyalgia and have found frequently things work less well separately than in combination. Feel free to email me if you would like more information.

    Fibromylagia and it’s close cousin M.E. share a lot of common biochemistry so what applies to one often applies to the other.
    Magnesium works in tandem with Potassium and there is evidence of Potassium being low in cells even if normal in blood – you might need both (but should not take potassium long term). If you can afford it get yourself a blood test for RED CELL potassium and magnesium. The other blood test SERUM Mag & Pot. is less useful.
    Mag Malate can take eight months to have full effect, so it may take a while, but should not be needed indefinitely. This page has lots of info http://www.endfatigue.com/book_notes/Fftf_chapter_2.html
    The way in which both Magnesium and Potassium lower pain is by restoring proper energy generation (the reason for that weird fatigue doing nothing). In doing so they prevent nasty acids building up and causing damage.
    Most people find that they have a unique combination of ‘missing chemistry’ needed to restore energy generation and lower pain. Again the link I provided above gives lots of information (but it’s a heavy read with brain fog).
    Many people with both diseases find Ribose helps massively, if used correctly. That means that for the first two or three times you take it, eat food first, then the Ribose – this prevents low blood sugar causing unpleasant symptoms.

    I hope that helps and feel free to email me and keep in touch.

  36. Louisa permalink
    April 17, 2014

    I am in the UK and also have FM. I’ve just been reading about Magnesium Malate, going to give it a try.

  37. September 10, 2014

    Hi Kathy, can u pl tell me the brand name of liquid magnesium that u took. Thanks Sharmila

  38. March 26, 2009

    Michele I am sorry that you are in such a bad pain cycle. My best advice on the magnesium is to seek medical advice on the dose. As Kathy mentioned above there can be side effects from taking it.

    Magnesium malate contains malic acid which some professionals believe makes the symptoms of IBS worse.

    I experienced a bad case of the hives – unrelated to the magnesium malate – and stopped taking all of the supplements I was on. I have not gone back to it, because I have found other ways to improve my pain and my quality of life – yoga & Dr. Shores, my holistic chiropractor.

    If you are open to seeing a holistic practitioner I would recommend you begin there before you add anything new to your pain management. I am sorry if this is not the answer you were looking for. I am wishing you well! FH

  39. linda permalink
    April 28, 2009

    HONEY,
    GO TO YOUR HEALTH FOOD STORE! I DO MASSAGES.
    MY WONDERFUL MASSAGE THERAPIST GIVES ME A DISCOUNT FOR FREQUENT VISITS. SHE ALSO DOES REIKI.

    DO YOUR RESEARCH ….AND I MENTIONED BEFORE IN A PREVIOUS POST…SOAK IN EPSOM SALTS.

    I AM ON GABAPENTIN IT SEEMS TO HELP W/O TOO MANY SIDE EFFECTS…..
    MY RHEUMETOLIGIST TOLD ME TO READ, READ, READ!!!!
    GOOD LUCK HON
    LINDA

  40. September 29, 2009

    Michele, I am new to this site, but not to FMS. I too have most of my pain in the neck, upper back with different types of headaches ( tension, migrane, sinus). The medication that works the best for me is Fioricet (not the generic). The pills are blue in color. I’ve been using them for 20 years and I regularly have my liver health checked by a blood test every year and I have not had any problems with it. Every morning I wake up with a headache and stiffness all over. I go to the bathroom and take 2 Fioricets with half glass of water, then return to bed, pillows all around, in a seated position and mediate and pray for a half hour or so. The body seems to relax and the pain lifts off and I get very good relief. Sometimes I take another pill at 2PM-4PM. It does have caffeine in it, which for me is a good thing; it gives me energy and makes me a little talkative. No other side effects, like other pain relievers. Ask your doctor about it. It also has tylenol in it so don’t take over the counter tylenol when you are using this drug. It has a small amount of barbitruate in it; that’s the magic ingredient. My best to you…. Annette

  41. linda permalink
    April 28, 2009

    HEY KATHY,
    I ALSO HAVE FIBRO. MY CHIROPRACTOR (WHO ALSO IS A SUFFERER) HAS ADVISED ME TO SOAK IN EPSOM SALTS.
    “MAGNESIUM SUPREME” LOL
    IT SEEMS TO HELP ME QUITE A BIT…I SOMETIMES ADD
    SOME LAVENDER OIL…HELPS ME TO SLEEP.
    JUST THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE.
    BEST TO YOU !
    LINDA

  42. August 10, 2009

    Hi Stephanie. Thanks for taking the time to research and ask questions. Because I am not qualified to dispense medical advice, I can only share with you my opinion.

    I cannot recommend that you stop taking the Savella. You should discuss that with your doctor. Personally I do not take any of the prescription medications prescribe for FM, because like you, I am very sensitive to medicine. As for supplements, I took magnesium malate for awhile and stopped for unrelated reasons. I am now taking one, 400mg magnesium capsule a day, and it does seem to be helping reduce my pain symptoms. I also seem to be sleeping better.

    Here is what I believe – To get the best results it will most likely take a combination of things – like supplements, gentle exercise, good nutrition, etc.. If you are interested in adding magnesium to your protocol, make sure it does not interfere with what you are currently taking. I hear over and over again that magnesium is helping FM patients, so I think it is worth a try.

  43. MiMi permalink
    September 11, 2009

    Again, I want to share with everyone that I have learned to “control” my pain with vitamins and supplements…..I know for a fact that the magnesium malate combination supplement and Omegas plus the Vitamin D supplement are the ones which are helping me…..I do take others…but I did a trial and error process which took a lot of time and effort and I figured out which vitamins and supplements were helping me….I think everyone should at least give this a try….I told my doctor about what I was doing and that I had learned to “control” my pain…and he just gave me a weird look….then a couple of weeks after this incident, Dr. Oz wrote an article about these and I was so thankful…..since I felt like the doctor did not believe me….of course, we are the only ones who really know just how much pain that we deal with each and every day with the wrath of the dragon, aka FM….

  44. September 29, 2009

    fibro/lupus queen, it is great to read about your improved symptoms. I hope you are continuing to feel the benefits and your sleep has improved.

  45. September 26, 2009

    Hi all, this is my first time replying to the FibroHaven community, but I’ve had this disease for 21 years and “experimented” with many, many medications, treatments, supplements, healing modalities and it seems that I’ve tried almost everything that’s out there which I’ve read about on the web. What you are doing here by taking the time, effort and care to reach out to others is by far the most powerful method that we can do to help our coping and healing. I commend you and thank you. As I read through these replies, the amount of young adults that are suffering so badly saddens my heart and seems to come as a surprise. In most of the support groups I had been involved in the FMSers were about 50-65 years old. There were sometimes a few who were younger but they had been traumatized by car accidents that seemed to trigger the FMS. Anyway my prayer list just seems to get longer each day as I find more and more women with this disease. I know that I have read that men are also diagnosed, but I have not yet met one.
    There is an excellent , LIQUID form of calcium, magnesium and vit D that is available at the health store (Not sure if we could mention brand names and health store names, but it is the most popular health, nutritional store name).
    Lastly, I know that this disease is definitely rooted in our nervous systems….the way we receive and sense the messages that circulate around our bodies via the neurotransmitters.
    My best to all!! I believe that there is a special gift hidden in FMS; we can feel and sense things in various energy fields that normals cannot. We are more empathic, more telephatic, more attuned to the spiritual messages, more able to predict the future and help heal energetically. Maybe it’s a calling; maybe it’s an alignment of our energy vibrating so fast that our poor bodies can’t keep up with the movement….all our systems tire out from overwork. What do you feel?

  46. September 29, 2009

    Ahh, but now that the cold weather is approaching, those warm baths at night sound really good!!!!

  47. Dennis permalink
    September 27, 2009

    here is a book called “The Miracle of Magnesium” awesome book

    http://fibrohaven.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/magnesium-malate-and-fibromyalgia/

  48. DIANA permalink
    September 27, 2009

    i am seriously concerned about what is wrong with my muscles. The only way i can possibly describe it is it is a like a towel that you go soaking wet and then rung out. even with vicoden it does not elimate the strain my muscles feel. i basically hurt all over and i feel taking the pain pills has contributed to my pain in the long run. i have a bottle of magnesium malate and i am wondering if it does help. i don’t know if i have fibromyalgia or not. like my back right now as i lean over there is a pain in just stretching the muscles , and even pain pills don’t do a thing. how to you know if you have fibromyalgia

    diana

  49. September 29, 2009

    The only way to be diagnosed with fibromyalgia Diana is to see a healthcare provider. It is excellent that you are monitoring your symptoms and doing research, because that will help you communicate better with your doctor and will most likely shorten the diagnosis process.

    Whether you officially have FM or not, there are many things you can begin to do to help with your pain. I have written several posts that can help you. Start here: Tips for Easing Pain. Also it is very important to keep as active as possible, while honoring your limitations. Read this post on Mindful Movement. Pain with stretching the muscle is common in FM, and often it is cause from immobility.

    Keep listening to your body and learning what it is trying to tell you. The Magnesium helps me a lot, but I would again recommend consulting your doctor about taking it.

  50. September 29, 2009

    Thanks for sharing this Dennis. I will definitely check it out.

  51. September 29, 2009

    Thanks Mimi. I have been on a new protocol of magnesium, omegas, and a multi vitamin and am really feeling the benefits. I have considered adding Vit D, but am not sure if I need them. I keep reading about how important it is and that many people with FM suffer from Vit D deficiency. If you have the link to Dr. Oz article I would love to read it.

  52. Jessup permalink
    February 22, 2012

    Annette-

    I know this is an old post. Hope you are still out here sometimes.

    A couple of years ago I would have read your post and thought you were nuts. Boy, has my opinion changed!!! I’ve had severe pain the last couple of years to the point it has affected every part of my life and I am now going to go on disability. I saw a rheumatologist a few days ago and was diagnosed with myofascial pain syndrome. The doctor told me that most in his field it’s either myofascial pain syndrome OR fibro. His opinion, however, is that the two are the same thing. I still have all the fibro symptoms…exhaustion, poor sleep, tender points, brain fog and pain, pain, pain. The only difference is my pain is mostly on the left upper side of my body. Shoulder, arm, wrist, neck and back of head with some occasional radiation to the right side of my neck.

    Anyhow, to get back to the real reason for posting. Yes, I completely beleive those of us with fibro are more sensitive to everything. I also feel that people with anxiety and depression have these issues because they are also overly sensitive. I’ve had anxiety all my life. My body took it for years and now it just feels like it’s hit the limit.

    My inner voice has been screaming at me to stop working for awhile and focus on any type of natural treatment I can that will help me. I have been trying to tell it to stop because I do need to work. But I’ve finally gotten into enough pain that I now don’t have a choice other than to listen. I will be working on disability forms this week.

    And as far as energy and our bodies not being able to handle that. I completely agree with you. I learned this from acupuncture. I thought that was a complete sham but decided to try it anyway. I had a bunch of wierd stuff happen in acupuncture. My mind was rushing with daily problems in the beginning. Did I turn off the iron. What do I need to get at the grocery store, etc. After a few weeks of this, my sessions turned into anger. More anger than I’d ever felt about people in my life that had wronged me. That stopped and forgiveness followed. (I had gone to years of therapy to try to get over some anger and a couple of months of acupuncture fixed it). After this my brain was quiet during the sessions and then I would feel a tingling rush in my limbs and an energy that seemed to focus in my belly area and it would feel like my body was down below and I was up above.

    I was scared so I asked the acupuncturist what was happening to me. She told me that was meditation and in a sense this was me being able to feel my physical body away from my spiritual body and that people tried to do this for years and it only took me a couple of months. And I didn’t know anything about it..so it wasn’t something I was trying to find..it came to find me.

    So yes. I am most likely more sensitive to energy around me and have been for years. And an inner voice tells me that sometimes my physical body cannot handle it.

    I don’t know if you have personally tried acupuncture. It didn’t help with my pain…but the other things that happened were amazing. If i can get approved for disability I’ll be going a couple of times a week along with an awesome physical therapist I found that is also a yoga instructor..and a few other treatments. I, too, beleive it must be a mix of several treatments to get you feeling better. Find as much help in as many areas as you can. Build up a team of people to help you. Naturopaths, physical therapists, yoga, acupuncture, massage…whatever it takes.

  53. Marci permalink
    August 5, 2012

    If you are still involved with this page, I just had to say how much I related to your post. All I know is that I have always been super tuned in to the feelings and emotions of others so it made a lot of sense to hear someone else mention that there is likely a connection.

  54. January 16, 2013

    I have considered this because I seem more insightful than my family and friends. I have problems with noises and smells and eye movements. Do you? Acupuncture seems to help calm me all over. Have you tried it?

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