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		<title>By: Katinka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katinka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I must very humbly appologize for assuming the worst.  So I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I must very humbly appologize for assuming the worst.  So I am.</p>
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		<title>By: fibrohaven</title>
		<link>http://www.fibrohaven.com/2009/08/03/follow-up-on-dr-whitcomb-nrct/comment-page-2/#comment-998</link>
		<dc:creator>fibrohaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought you declared yourself done with commenting here Katinka. Lovely of you to come back and try to stir up problems.

Each and every comment is still here. I said before I would not censor and I am true to my word.

Work is being done on my site. It has been moved to its own URL and in doing so the comments are no longer nested and all new comments since the move are appearing at the top. It is something we are working on but have been unable to resolve thus far. It happened on every post, not just this one.

Thank you for assuming the worst. Surely that speaks about you in a loud and clear way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought you declared yourself done with commenting here Katinka. Lovely of you to come back and try to stir up problems.</p>
<p>Each and every comment is still here. I said before I would not censor and I am true to my word.</p>
<p>Work is being done on my site. It has been moved to its own URL and in doing so the comments are no longer nested and all new comments since the move are appearing at the top. It is something we are working on but have been unable to resolve thus far. It happened on every post, not just this one.</p>
<p>Thank you for assuming the worst. Surely that speaks about you in a loud and clear way.</p>
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		<title>By: Katinka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katinka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering what happened to Jeanette&#039;s last positive comment about NRCT. Was it removed? Is this being censored, now? Surely not, as that would speak for itself in a very loud and clear way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering what happened to Jeanette&#8217;s last positive comment about NRCT. Was it removed? Is this being censored, now? Surely not, as that would speak for itself in a very loud and clear way.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Court Case: Stephen Barrett, M.D. vs. Tedd Koren, D.C. and Koren Publications, Inc. 
Court of Common Pleas of Lehigh County for the State of Pennsylvania 
Court Case No.: 2002-C-1837 

Barrett lost (again).

If anyone did a search on Barret&#039;s testimonies in court they would find that he has lost almost 40 cases in which he brought defamation lawsuits against alternative health care providers,  the supplement industry, and other individuals with one of the latest in October 2005, as stated above, when they disagreed with his views and told the public the truth.  See the above website for more information.

I too have been successfully treated with Dr. Whitcomb&#039;s method.  I can sympathsize with those who did not get relief from this relatively safe treatment, but when you consider that approximately 250,000 people DIE* every year in the U.S. using medications that were &quot;properly&quot; administered by licensed medical doctors, I would rather take my chances with a properly trained chiropractor.  Deaths* caused by doctors (iatrogenic - Journal American Medical Association July 26, 2000;284(4):483-5physican caused) are the third leading cause of death in the U.S.  Note: The reference in the astrisked article is to the publication Journal American Medical Association July 26, 2000;284(4):483-5.

I can&#039;t find a reference anywhere where Dr. Whitcomb&#039;s method caused a death.

* http://www.naturodoc.com/library/public_health/doctors_cause_death.htm
In Hospital Deaths From Medical Errors at 195,000 - http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/11856.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Court Case: Stephen Barrett, M.D. vs. Tedd Koren, D.C. and Koren Publications, Inc.<br />
Court of Common Pleas of Lehigh County for the State of Pennsylvania<br />
Court Case No.: 2002-C-1837 </p>
<p>Barrett lost (again).</p>
<p>If anyone did a search on Barret&#8217;s testimonies in court they would find that he has lost almost 40 cases in which he brought defamation lawsuits against alternative health care providers,  the supplement industry, and other individuals with one of the latest in October 2005, as stated above, when they disagreed with his views and told the public the truth.  See the above website for more information.</p>
<p>I too have been successfully treated with Dr. Whitcomb&#8217;s method.  I can sympathsize with those who did not get relief from this relatively safe treatment, but when you consider that approximately 250,000 people DIE* every year in the U.S. using medications that were &#8220;properly&#8221; administered by licensed medical doctors, I would rather take my chances with a properly trained chiropractor.  Deaths* caused by doctors (iatrogenic &#8211; Journal American Medical Association July 26, 2000;284(4):483-5physican caused) are the third leading cause of death in the U.S.  Note: The reference in the astrisked article is to the publication Journal American Medical Association July 26, 2000;284(4):483-5.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find a reference anywhere where Dr. Whitcomb&#8217;s method caused a death.</p>
<p>* <a href="http://www.naturodoc.com/library/public_health/doctors_cause_death.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.naturodoc.com/library/public_health/doctors_cause_death.htm</a><br />
In Hospital Deaths From Medical Errors at 195,000 &#8211; <a href="http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/11856.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/11856.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeanette</title>
		<link>http://www.fibrohaven.com/2009/08/03/follow-up-on-dr-whitcomb-nrct/comment-page-2/#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been getting the treatment for 10 weeks and I have improved from functioning at 30% all the way to 80%.  There were a couple of weeks I was out of town and did not get any treatments and I did not loose any of the improvements I had made.  The treatment does not work for everyone but it does work for a lot of people.  One visit with the treatment is not enough to see if it will work for a person.  All I can say is look into it for yourself .  The treatment works - regardless of who started advertising it - it works.  I have a life again.  I can make plans and keep them!  I can do things around the house and I am enjoying life again.  It&#039;s so much fun!  I&#039;m off all meds for FMS!!!!  ALL - prescription free.  You don&#039;t know how good that makes me feel.  (i won&#039;t be responding to any comments - just wanted to update y&#039;all)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been getting the treatment for 10 weeks and I have improved from functioning at 30% all the way to 80%.  There were a couple of weeks I was out of town and did not get any treatments and I did not loose any of the improvements I had made.  The treatment does not work for everyone but it does work for a lot of people.  One visit with the treatment is not enough to see if it will work for a person.  All I can say is look into it for yourself .  The treatment works &#8211; regardless of who started advertising it &#8211; it works.  I have a life again.  I can make plans and keep them!  I can do things around the house and I am enjoying life again.  It&#8217;s so much fun!  I&#8217;m off all meds for FMS!!!!  ALL &#8211; prescription free.  You don&#8217;t know how good that makes me feel.  (i won&#8217;t be responding to any comments &#8211; just wanted to update y&#8217;all)</p>
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		<title>By: Sherril Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.fibrohaven.com/2009/08/03/follow-up-on-dr-whitcomb-nrct/comment-page-/#comment-822</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherril Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great response, and I too find FibroHaven a place of peace respite.  Thank you Dannette!

I also just wanted to point out that Mr. Bolen talks big, but I see no links supporting what he is saying.  Same thing when I was checking the links that Katinka supplied in one of her comments, they didn&#039;t seem to support what she was saying, although I didn&#039;t waste a lot of time trying to see the connection.  And when she mentioned Tim Bolen, I did look him up and I didn&#039;t find anything good.  It seems to be a circle game with him, no end (point) in sight.  Once again I didn&#039;t spend a lot of time looking; life is too short, especially if you live with chronic illness.  My exaggerated sense of justice makes it hard for me to let go of these injustices, but I&#039;m getting better with practice.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great response, and I too find FibroHaven a place of peace respite.  Thank you Dannette!</p>
<p>I also just wanted to point out that Mr. Bolen talks big, but I see no links supporting what he is saying.  Same thing when I was checking the links that Katinka supplied in one of her comments, they didn&#8217;t seem to support what she was saying, although I didn&#8217;t waste a lot of time trying to see the connection.  And when she mentioned Tim Bolen, I did look him up and I didn&#8217;t find anything good.  It seems to be a circle game with him, no end (point) in sight.  Once again I didn&#8217;t spend a lot of time looking; life is too short, especially if you live with chronic illness.  My exaggerated sense of justice makes it hard for me to let go of these injustices, but I&#8217;m getting better with practice.  <img src='http://www.fibrohaven.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: fibrohaven</title>
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		<dc:creator>fibrohaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Julie for taking the time to leave your thoughtful and positive comment. I am so glad this has been a cleansing experience for you! Everything you said was right on and beautifully stated. I appreciate your cheers very much. My Best to You.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Julie for taking the time to leave your thoughtful and positive comment. I am so glad this has been a cleansing experience for you! Everything you said was right on and beautifully stated. I appreciate your cheers very much. My Best to You.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.fibrohaven.com/2009/08/03/follow-up-on-dr-whitcomb-nrct/comment-page-1/#comment-820</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three cheers for fibrohaven&#039;s comments:)!!!!!! And right you are!
Good grief, our openness added to our empowerment on the subject
of Dr. Whitcomb and his treatment attitude/plan to cure Fibro.

I resent being &#039;told&#039; what we can and cannot talk about....especially
if it is our own experience and approached with dignity and respect
for another person. We have been honest. Yes, we have disagreed.
But we can make up our own minds. We don&#039;t need anyone to
protect us.

As for me, this so called negative experience turned out to be a
cleansing one. So hurray for Fibro Haven! A service has been done
in a beautiful way.

I, for one, thank you again.

Julie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three cheers for fibrohaven&#8217;s comments:)!!!!!! And right you are!<br />
Good grief, our openness added to our empowerment on the subject<br />
of Dr. Whitcomb and his treatment attitude/plan to cure Fibro.</p>
<p>I resent being &#8216;told&#8217; what we can and cannot talk about&#8230;.especially<br />
if it is our own experience and approached with dignity and respect<br />
for another person. We have been honest. Yes, we have disagreed.<br />
But we can make up our own minds. We don&#8217;t need anyone to<br />
protect us.</p>
<p>As for me, this so called negative experience turned out to be a<br />
cleansing one. So hurray for Fibro Haven! A service has been done<br />
in a beautiful way.</p>
<p>I, for one, thank you again.</p>
<p>Julie</p>
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		<title>By: fibrohaven</title>
		<link>http://www.fibrohaven.com/2009/08/03/follow-up-on-dr-whitcomb-nrct/comment-page-/#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator>fibrohaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, close and careful reading of my blog would show that this is a place of encouragement and positive reinforcement, but thank you for your suggestions on what I should and should not focus on in my blog.

In the case of Whitcomb, since I am the one being marketed to with claims of &quot;a miracle cure,&quot; it is my right and duty to approach this topic from any and every angle I choose.

There is plenty bad to say about Whitcomb&#039;s technique. I suggest to you a little due diligence before criticizing and confusing facts with propaganda. Former patient testimony would be a good place to start.

Also congratulations on using this post as a platform for soliciting employment with Whitcomb. I hope that works out for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, close and careful reading of my blog would show that this is a place of encouragement and positive reinforcement, but thank you for your suggestions on what I should and should not focus on in my blog.</p>
<p>In the case of Whitcomb, since I am the one being marketed to with claims of &#8220;a miracle cure,&#8221; it is my right and duty to approach this topic from any and every angle I choose.</p>
<p>There is plenty bad to say about Whitcomb&#8217;s technique. I suggest to you a little due diligence before criticizing and confusing facts with propaganda. Former patient testimony would be a good place to start.</p>
<p>Also congratulations on using this post as a platform for soliciting employment with Whitcomb. I hope that works out for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Bolen</title>
		<link>http://www.fibrohaven.com/2009/08/03/follow-up-on-dr-whitcomb-nrct/comment-page-1/#comment-818</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Bolen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dannette:

My suggestion to you is that you discourage the &quot;personal&quot; issues surrounding health care and its players - and stay focused on the things that might help.  People with fibromyalgia, and other debilitating health issues, need ideas, information,  and positive reinforcement - not negativity and bad feelings.

In a sense you brought this ill feeling discussion on yourself when you switched from focusing on Whitcomb&#039;s technique to what happened to Whitcomb himself with the California Chiropractic Board.  Katinka rightfully pointed out that the board, itself, was, just after the Whitcomb trial, investigated for massive corruption - and the Governor forced massive changes - including the firing of the board&#039;s Executive Director who had signed the complaint against Whitcomb.

I suggest too, that you let people like me who specialize in the corruption of the US healthcare system deal with those issues.  We do it well - but my articles can be very depressing due to their scope of interest.

And, as you can tell, I have absolutely no use for Stephen Barrett.  I was very much instrumental in helping the US Court system, in a Published Appeals Court decision (NCAHF v King Bio), formally, and generally, declare Stephen Barrett &quot;biased, and unworthy of credibility.&quot;

That FORMAL statement about Barrett means exactly what it says.

Attacking the person, when there is nothing bad to say about the technique, is a propaganda ruse commonly used by Barrett.  Don&#039;t go there.

I don&#039;t know Whitcomb.  He didn&#039;t hire me to help him, but if he contacts me, it is likely I can get his license back for him.

Tim Bolen  - www.bolenreport.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dannette:</p>
<p>My suggestion to you is that you discourage the &#8220;personal&#8221; issues surrounding health care and its players &#8211; and stay focused on the things that might help.  People with fibromyalgia, and other debilitating health issues, need ideas, information,  and positive reinforcement &#8211; not negativity and bad feelings.</p>
<p>In a sense you brought this ill feeling discussion on yourself when you switched from focusing on Whitcomb&#8217;s technique to what happened to Whitcomb himself with the California Chiropractic Board.  Katinka rightfully pointed out that the board, itself, was, just after the Whitcomb trial, investigated for massive corruption &#8211; and the Governor forced massive changes &#8211; including the firing of the board&#8217;s Executive Director who had signed the complaint against Whitcomb.</p>
<p>I suggest too, that you let people like me who specialize in the corruption of the US healthcare system deal with those issues.  We do it well &#8211; but my articles can be very depressing due to their scope of interest.</p>
<p>And, as you can tell, I have absolutely no use for Stephen Barrett.  I was very much instrumental in helping the US Court system, in a Published Appeals Court decision (NCAHF v King Bio), formally, and generally, declare Stephen Barrett &#8220;biased, and unworthy of credibility.&#8221;</p>
<p>That FORMAL statement about Barrett means exactly what it says.</p>
<p>Attacking the person, when there is nothing bad to say about the technique, is a propaganda ruse commonly used by Barrett.  Don&#8217;t go there.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know Whitcomb.  He didn&#8217;t hire me to help him, but if he contacts me, it is likely I can get his license back for him.</p>
<p>Tim Bolen  &#8211; <a href="http://www.bolenreport.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bolenreport.com</a></p>
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